Dialogue with wilkox on anarchy, part III

This is the third part in a series of discussions regarding anarchy with wilkox. To see the start of this dialogue, head here, or to view the post this is replying to, see here.

The gradual cessation of power from government into individual hands is something we both agree on, less something predictably bad were to happen. I did not, by the way, think that this cessation of government authority would occur without an ideology in place- I thought it would be intrinsically linked through the action of removing authority (in one way, unless everyone agreed, it could be considered ‘forced’).

Most people associate the word with lawlessness and chaos, to the point where it’s commonly included in dictionary definitions.

I was thinking about this. What would stop capitalist-anarchy from changing its name to differentiate themselves? There is a clear difference between an attempted, rational line towards a harmonious society and what other anarchists are associated with. You’re in the same sort of basket (albeit not nearly as at fault for the confusion) as Satanists who have nothing to do with the devil, and are just concerned with hedonism. You could call your brand of anarchy anything you like, for example calling it a Stateless Timocracy or yourself a Free Trade Constitutionalist or whatever and get away from negative appraisal by association.

Private currencies of both kinds are perfectly possible, and indeed many exist – it turns out governments are not the only institutions people trust to back a currency, and never really have been.

Would such an institution be considered a bank? Would an institution such as the World Bank still be a useable, important institution in a government-less society?

My question for freeze in part III is: anarchy or not, what “collective action” type government services would you pay for?

There are a few government services I think I would be comfortable to pay for. While I agree with you that schools and the education system up until postgraduate university is at some points terrifyingly inept, a school system that is normalized across a nation would be very important indeed for future employment prospects. Employers would be prepared to pay for it, as would those participating in the system I shouldn’t think. Anything less than a normalized school system across the anarchy I would consider a step backwards from a government-based organisation (maybe its the statistician in me).

Supporting workers like farmers and so on also might be useful. If a particularly nasty potato blight was to occur, for instance, then we lose farmer’s employment (and possibly their lives if there is no dole system available), leaving less capable workers to take over once the peril has past. I would think it would be in everyone’s best interest to ensure that primary production, especially volatile examples, would be established well enough to survive catastrophe.

Environmental disasters, such as caused by the tradegies of commons as you expressed, would need *something*, but as your post indicated, you are well aware.

In a different (but related) point that I would like to explore further, how would one control an anarchy to remain an anarchy? If people are allowed to do as they wish, what would stop an institution seizing power through use of force? Without appreciable security checks to ensure everyone is being well behaved to the small number of tenets (that is, don’t force anyone else to do anything) then could this not lead to hostile takeovers if an institution is large enough?

Wilkox’s response is here

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~ by freeze43 on May 26, 2010.

2 Responses to “Dialogue with wilkox on anarchy, part III”

  1. […] anarchy, currency, dialogue, education, freeze, private currency This is my response to part III of an ongoing dialogue with freeze43 on the topic of anarchy. Read freeze’s introductory post […]

  2. […] Dialogue with wilkox on anarchy, part III « Freeze43's Weblog on 26 May 2010 at 11:09 […]

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